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As I did last year, I publish a complete article making recommendations of devices. There are many questions that you send me in reference to which clock is better or worse, so having this article with all of them together is the most appropriate; both for your consultation and to be able to send those kind of questions here.
The date I choose is not trivial. Firstly because it is published a few days after practically all the new features for 2016 have already been announced (although there is still some way to go this year). Generally I would wait a little longer to have some more time to go through some of the recommended models that I have not yet analysed in detail, either because of lack of time to publish the test or because of lack of device. But they are listed here either because they are unique in their category (new for this year) or because they are a small evolution from last year, sharing the base and adding some features that make them interesting.
In other words, I make these recommendations in full knowledge of the facts and because I sincerely believe that this is the best choice for each of the categories. Obviously this is my particular opinion and yours may be different, but what I want to make clear (and I think that if you read my tests and articles regularly it is quite evident) is that the choices I make here are a personal choice and at no time is there a prize for certain brands to sell more units of the recommended product or, on the contrary, to punish others for not doing so.
Like everything I write here, I'm free to write whatever I want and in a totally independent way, since I don't depend on the advertising that those brands may be doing (because I would never allow one of their ads on the page). It's something that other media do but that you will never see around here.
And as you will also know if you are a regular, if you want to collaborate with the page and help cover the associated costs (much higher than it might seem), you will be able to do so by buying through the links I put here. Doing so will not only support the page, but also the work I do which is undoubtedly the most important part.
Once that's all cleared up, what do you say we get down to business?
GPS running clock
If you are looking for a watch for running there is a lot to choose from. It is the most extensive category and where we can find the most competition. A lot of models and very different ranges, because whatever is multi sport will also be perfectly valid for running. But here I focus on watches that are designed specifically for running, if not exclusively so, then mainly.
Best GPS Watch
There are no changes from what I recommended a little over six months ago. Garmin Forerunner 230 continues to be the best option for runners looking for a complete clock and without spending too much money either.
Just because it's called the best GPS watch doesn't mean it's the most complete. Forerunner 630 But with the specifications of the 230 I'm sure that the 90% of you will be more than satisfied, and I would leave the 630 for the remaining 10% who are data lovers and are willing to pay that price difference.
Of course, if you want it with an optical sensor you have the Garmin Forerunner 235But of course, this isn't the best GPS watch section with an optical pulse sensor, is it?[table id=94 /]
Best cheap running GPS watch
It is becoming increasingly difficult to choose a winner in this category: firstly because the models destined for the lower end of the market are becoming more and more complete and are almost no longer in the low range despite their price; and secondly because those that were recently in the middle range have gradually fallen in price, until they are now practically rivals in the low range.
But the announcement of the new TomTom Runner 3 The reason for this is simple: in addition to a watch that was already a good choice last year because of its price and its good relationship between performance and simplicity, it also offers the possibility of route navigation.
TomTom has popularised this function that was previously only present in top-of-the-range models. The Dutch offer it from their most economical model and also with a magnetic compass. Of course then there is the rest of the range if you are interested in its superior features (such as the optical pulse sensor or music playback).[table id=95 /]
Best GPS clock are optical pulse sensor
Of course, if Forerunner 230 is the best GPS running watch (or at least the best value for money), its optical sensor cousin, the Garmin Forerunner 235If you ask me about a watch that includes the optical sensor, it's my choice.
However, I won't lie to you. Garmin's Elevate sensor is still going through a period of development, although Olathe's is still polishing the algorithm and every time I try a new model with this sensor I can appreciate slight improvements (that come to the previous models as an update, since the hardware is the same).
Apart from these specific objections with the sensor, which you can read in the corresponding part of the testThe 235 shares the same features with the 230, but with some differences in favour of the 235 thanks to the optical sensor. The market also supports it, as it is the best-selling model with an optical sensor at the moment.
If you want a superior model (like the 630 in the initial example) but with an optical pulse sensor, you have the Forerunner 735XT which is also a very interesting option, although perhaps more focused on triathletes. But this does not mean that those who only run cannot benefit from everything this model has to offer.[table id=97 /]
Best trail running GPS watch
The new route-tracking screen for ascents and descents that was introduced with the Suunto Ambit3 Vertical has totally changed this category. Soon Garmin copied this feature for the Phoenix 3And the truth is, when I run a trail, all the information I need is on this screen: Remaining distance, profile of the route ahead (both uphill and downhill) and the amount of positive meters remaining. With that and what I collect at the refreshment posts I have enough to reach the finish line.
I don't care about everything else, I don't care about the pace I'm going (I may be going up at 15 min/km or going down at 3 min/km, but who cares) or the remaining distance (total, what matters is whether we're going up or down, I prefer 10km flat rather than 2km with an average gradient of 12%), at least during the competition, because during the training sessions both offer all the information you would expect from a watch of this type.
So if you are a trail runner, my recommendation is to choose between the Suunto Ambit3 Vertical or the Garmin Fenix 3. Both offer this display on the trails and during workouts will perform flawlessly. Although the Vertical does a better job of "stinging" you with the constant recording of accumulated vertical meters.
With the Vertical, you have to take into account the battery life. If you are an ultra trail runner, the 10 hours of run time of the Ambit3 Vertical can be a bit short. The Fenix 3 offers more battery life, but you can also take a look at the Ambit3 Peak with twice the run time of the Vertical, although it's a pity that Suunto doesn't include the display with the route profile on this model. But it does have the barometric altimeter, plus a storm warning and sunrise/sunset time.
You may miss in this section the new Suunto Spartan UltraWithout any doubt it is a watch that is called to be present in this category. Not in vain the base is impressive, but today it still has quite a lot of work ahead at the software level, because at the moment the training possibilities it offers are very limited. I hope and desire that when the time comes to make the next listing its software will be at the level of the rest of the team, offering at least everything that we can find in the Ambit3 Peak.[table id=98 /]
Best running smartwatch
If you're looking for a smart watch that can run in the right way sporadic (or even not so sporadic) then forget all of the above.
Here are two options, depending on which phone you use. If you have an Android phone the best option is the Polar M600If you are an Apple user, the new Apple Watch series 2 (with GPS) is the one that will give you the best service.
The reason is simple, all the models I've been talking about so far are training watches that have more or less some intelligent function. Even some like the Garmin allow you to install applications or change the watch face.
But both the Polar M600 and the new Apple Watch go further. They are not a sports watch with some smart clocking. They are smart watches with a complete operating system (with all that that entails) that also has GPS reception, optical pulse monitor of acceptable quality (nothing like what other brands like Motorola or Samsung have incorporated so far) and, in the case of Polar, the analysis software itself both in the watch and in the online platform of Polar Flow.
The Apple Watch S2 test For the M600, we will have to wait a little longer, until the arrival of Android Wear 2.0 which will develop its full potential.
GPS watch for triathlon or multi sport
A triathlon watch is not only designed for triathlon, its main advantage is that you can create activities that combine several sports in a row. Duathlon, aquathlon or even if you only compete in road races, you will most likely do cross training in other sports.
These watches allow you to switch from one sports profile to another and also support specific swimming metrics, both in the pool and in open water.
Best GPS triathlon watch
Although in your test I objected to the autonomy of the Forerunner 735XT -could be insufficient to finish an Ironman- or the lack of a barometric altimeter, the Garmin Forerunner 735XT is the most complete triathlon watch available right now. And it comes to the market without a prohibitive price.
There's another little snag to keep in mind, though, and that is that there is no quick mount kit that allows you to move the watch from your wrist to the handlebars of your bike in an instant. If it's non-negotiable for you, you should think about Garmin Forerunner 920XT or in the Garmin Fenix 3 (not the HR version), both have that kit.
Those are its two shortcomings. But it's brilliant in everything else. In racing it offers the same features as the Forerunner 630 (plus the optical pulse sensor), in cycling it's almost like an Edge computer, including turn-by-turn navigation, FTP calculation, support for Various Radar and Varia VisionAnd in swimming, not only is it compatible with HRM-Tri and HRM-SwimThe quality of the tracks in open water is one of the best among the competition, or at least it is with the watch that I have obtained the best results.[table id=99 /]
GPS clock for everything, but nothing in particular
New category, but very much in demand in the comments. Looking for a watch to do a lot of sports but without emphasizing any particular sport? Then the best option is the Garmin Vivoactive HR.
This watch with optical pulse sensor is the best option for those who run, bike or cross country, that is, someone who has an active life but is not focused on any particular competitive sport (you run, but do not compete). And its barometric altimeter is the same for counting positive meters as for counting how many floors you have climbed during the day.
The main difference with the Forerunner family is that the Vivoactive HR has no support for advanced training. Instead it has a greater number of sports profiles, such as rowing, skiing, paddle surfing or golfing. It is a true all-rounder.[table id=109 /]
It is a category that is losing importance within the ranges of the different manufacturers, mainly because the sales of specific products are somewhat more complicated as it is a function that is already being integrated into many models. In addition, the traditional competitive swimmer tends to dispense with devices in the pool, being guided by the wall clock when marking their intervals and counting distance or series by moving the buoys at the end of the street. For their part, triathletes are looking for watches that are not only for swimming but also for multisports.
It is a category that is getting less and less interest from the market and that for the moment can offer few novelties, beyond offering pulse measurement. The only possibility to keep it alive is to be able to register the pulse through an optical sensor, but this has not been achieved yet.
0Still, here are some ideas if you want a watch to use mainly in the pool.
Best swimming pool clock
For those of you who mainly swim in pools, there is not much to choose from. As specific equipment there is practically only the Garmin Swimbut it has been asking for a replacement for quite some time (although no one pays attention to it). But I find it hard to recommend a device that is already quite "old" with a screen quality that is from the last century. There are other options on the market (for example Finis offers something), but it is practically testimonial.
Any multi-sport watch that has a swimming pool profile, such as the TomTom Runner 3Although Garmin models offer more information after synchronization and there is not much difference in price.
The Vivoactive and the Vivoactive HR are the two options you would consider when choosing a watch to train for hours and hours in the pool. In addition, they are also useful for strength training in the gym, walking, cycling, etc. The case of the Vivoactive is especially noteworthy because it is the thinnest of all and the one that will give less problems when sliding in the pool.
Unfortunately, none of the three can record the heart rate in swimming. This would require jumping to the next block.[table id=100 /]
Best GPS watch for swimming in pool and open water
Since there is no specific watch for swimming in open water, you must choose models that are initially intended for multi-sport or triathlon. If you are a triathlete, I refer you to the corresponding section. If you are more of a cross-country runner, then you are in the appropriate section.
The first thing you have to take into account is that, in open water, the work for the GPS is very complicated. Every time the watch enters the water it loses the GPS signal, so the watch must try to join all the points it manages to collect (and without the location accuracy being remarkable). It does all this thanks to a specific algorithm, and it is not at all easy.
For open water my choice would be any multi-sport watch, and in particular the one that is the cheapest at the time. Right now those would be the Polar V800 or the Suunto Ambit3 SportMoreover, in both cases, its pulse sensors allow to record the heart rate during swimming.[table id=101 /]
Cycle computer and cycling
There are fewer options to choose from in this category than in the GPS watch segment. The number of manufacturers of such devices is smaller, a segment that is clearly led by Garmin. Still, there are two new additions that promise to be quite interesting, at least shaking up the market a bit.
On Wahoo's side is the ELEMNTUnfortunately, its distribution in Spain is quite limited. it is possible to buy it directly through their website without shipping costs.
Stages has just presented the Dash, another option that for the moment in paper seems interesting, and then there is Polar, but while Garmin has 9 or 10 products in the catalogue the Finns only have 2, so the easiest way is to see products from the Americans in this section.
Hopefully the people of Wahoo will in the near future put some more interest in the Spanish market, and in the meantime be able to offer a complete proof of it.
Here I have no doubt, the Garmin Edge 520 The only reason I would tell you that the Garmin Edge 520 isn't the perfect unit for you is if you're too dependent on navigation, in which case you might want to take a look at the new Edge 820 with more memory for maps and with full route navigation (you indicate that you want to go to the pizzeria on X Street and it shows you the way, instead of having to prepare the route in advance).
Otherwise it's small and light, but with a good display; perfect for training and competition. With ANT+ FE-C to control smart rollers, Strava sectors and the ability to install applications and data fields via Connect IQ, your possibilities go through the roof.
The 820 offers some additional features, but the main difference is the navigation. If you don't find it interesting, I think you'll be more than satisfied with the 520.[table id=102 /]
Best Cheap Cyclocomputer
And again it's the Polar M450 which remains my choice as an affordable cycling computer. It offers everything you might need in a cycle computer for very little money. If you don't need power training (which is quite limited), navigation or connecting to ANT+ devices (only Bluetooth Smart compatible), there's nothing that gives you more performance for your money.
The M450 isn't the best at anything, but it's pretty good at just about everything. That's what makes it shine. Its price/performance ratio is indisputably the best in the segment. No one gives so much for so little.[table id=103 /]
Best rear light
I'm in love with the Garmin Varia radarConsidered by many to be an unhelpful device, a very expensive bicycle light, it's much more than that to me. In fact, it's the device I liked best in 2015 for how well it worked and how easy it was to use. Because at the end of the day, the most important thing is your safety.
It is not an accident insurance nor does it guarantee that you will not be hit by any vehicle, but it provides vital information depending on the circumstances and increases your visibility with respect to other vehicles. In my opinion it is something indispensable as soon as you leave the city and something that I cannot forget every time I go out for a bike training session.[table id=104 /]
Best optical pulse sensor
If you are not yet ready to make the leap to a watch with an optical sensor (although it will be more and more complicated), a good option is to keep your current watch and look for a pulse sensor that uses this type of technology. There are two that I can recommend: the Mio Link and the Scosche RHYTHM+.
Both are equally reliable in all circumstances (for the moment, better than those that manufacturers are starting to integrate into their watches) and are capable of simultaneously broadcasting heart rate data via ANT+ and Bluetooth.
If I have to choose one of the two, lately I'm leaning towards the Scosche over the Mio, for several reasons, but mainly because it offers more possibilities to wear it on the body (the Mio must be worn on the wrist) and because the emission power is higher. Anyway, in the RHYTHM+ test The differences between the two are well detailed. I recommend that you take a look at it as I make a pretty good summary that will help you in your choice.
And if after reading that you don't decide, I'll put it another way. Buy the cheapest one.[table id=105 /]
Best speed and cadence sensor
It is not a product that has a lot of renovation, simply because it is very simple. My main concern continues to be that the connection is dual ANT+ and Bluetooth Smart. You never know where the future will take you and, frankly, a sensor of this type is something that will last you almost a lifetime.
The Wahoo BlueSC There are no compatibility problems and it's easy to install. And that's really all we can ask from such a simple device. Operation is thanks to magnets, so the data will always be real.
Now what starts to move more in the market are devices based on internal accelerometers that estimate the speed and cadence (although they do it very well). Wahoo has also of these sensorsalthough they're usually a little more expensive. I haven't tried them, though.
I wouldn't choose any other option sold by Garmin or Polar, as they only transmit via ANT+ or Bluetooth and their price is the same. Much better to have simultaneous transmission (you never know what you'll end up connecting to).[table id=106 /]
Best cycling power meter
Although I still have to publish the test -it's there, among the drafts, but there's always something that ends up slipping through the cracks and there's no way to finish it-, I have no doubt that right now the best power meter for your money is Favero's bePRO.
It's not the most complete option (they only have ANT+ connectivity) nor the easiest to install (Powertap P1's are a little easier to install), but at 749 ? you won't find another power meter that measures both sides separately. And if you don't want to spend that much, for 499 ? you can buy the bePRO S version that measures power on the left leg and multiplies it by two.
I have been using them regularly all year and they have become not only my regular power meter, but also one of the main comparison devices.
As for where to buy it, directly through your websiteI don't have any kind of relationship with them, so there is no compensation of any kind from them. I could recommend any other product that I would get a commission from, but I would be lying to you (and I will never do that).
Best Running Power Meter
Last year we already had Stryd, but for this year renews its format and becomes much more completeIn addition to measuring power while running it will provide additional metrics that will help you see progression and improve as a runner.
Stryd is not the only race power meter (there are a few more projects) but it is certainly the most advanced, and at least it is already on the market, which is more than others can say.
Again, as with the bePRO, you can buy it directly from their websiteThe relationship between the two parties is not good (apart from good communication).
Best Activity Monitor
To say which is the best activity monitor without knowing the uses and habits of any person is difficult, if not impossible. Firstly because there are many options on the market and secondly because among those options there are many differences. With or without pulse sensor. With or without GPS. With or without notifications. More expensive or cheaper. Watch or wrist format. It is therefore a purely personal choice.
That doesn't mean I can't give you some advice. First of all, if you already have friends or family using this type of device, ask what they use and buy something that is on the same platform. The social and competitive factor between friends is what can make you not only measure your daily activity, but also increase it exponentially.
So if you have three friends in the Garmin universe, don't go "modern" and buy a Fitbit wristband. The logical thing to do would be to opt for one of the Garmin options so that you can poder with your friends and see who reaches their goals first or who walks the most each day. This is what will really make you not only stay active, but also increase your activity, which is ultimately what this type of device is all about.
In my case I tend to opt for simple activity monitors that don't even look like what they are (Withings Activité Pop or Garmin Vivomove) or by models with display, optical pulse sensor and smartphone notifications.
In the second case, the one I consider most interesting is the Garmin Vivosmart HRI would like to thank you for the combination of services you offer and the price I consider appropriate.
From Fitbit there are two options that catch my eye. The Fitbit Blaze because of its quality of construction is a very interesting device and, after the recent update to show all the notifications on the phone, even more so. Also the Fitbit Charge 2I hope that Fitbit will realise the importance of notifications before it is too late.[table id=108 /]
Best Intelligent Scale
Even though new models have come on the market, my choice remains the same: Fitbit AriaIt is not the one with the most connection possibilities or the one with the most extensive data sheet (that would be the Garmin Index) But its platform is of good quality and thanks to the synchronization with MyFitnessPal you can synchronize the weight to practically any other service. Compared to the other options I think it is the one that offers more for less.
Despite the above, if you are mainly a user of one platform, another option to think about is to opt directly for the one that offers more integration with that platform you use. So, if you have a Garmin clock and a Garmin cycle computer, the most logical thing to do is to buy the Garmin Index and have it all focused on the same service. And if you're at Polar the same, Polar Balance.[table id=107 /]
As always, I appreciate that you spent 5 minutes of your time reading all this and, of course, thank you for contributing to the site by purchasing through the links I provide.
I not only run, but I also do paddle tennis and gym (fitness, elliptical...) frequently and, very occasionally, I run in the mountains. I used to do more sports, rowing included, and I used to chain them one after the other (now age does not forgive and at my 45 I must rest more often or injuries do not forgive), so the RS800CX was great for me, in addition to the analysis that allowed me polarpersonaltrainer, but it died.
Which watch do you recommend? The gps still seems useful to me because it allows me to have a better control over what I run. The optical pulse sensor seems to me a good idea for monitoring sports like gym and paddle tennis, because it doesn't bother the treadmill, but it's not essential either.
Anyway, with everything that's going on, I'm a mess.
Finally, thank you for the site. The truth is that it is very useful. Whatever I buy, I assure you it will be with one of your links and I'm not kidding you to recommend me something! ha ha ha ha!
First of all, thank you very much for wanting to collaborate for the page, and thank you also for reminding me that I have to add a category of fitness or sport in general, like what you expose.
In your case I think the Vivoactive HR is the best suited for your use, and it also has a profile for rowing if you ever decide to practice it again, even if it's only sporadically.
Thank you so much for answering.
When I go running, and I didn't tell you this, I usually do interval training, including the famous 30-20-10, and for that I'm really happy that the watch can be programmed, which the vivoactive doesn't support. Of course, as you say in your test, you can always set the manual intervals, but the fact that they are preprogrammed helps me a lot, especially if they are short and many (30-20-10).
From what I have read, the polar m600 seems that it can also adapt to my multisport profile and that pod will be programmed in the aforementioned question of intervals. With the m600 also 1TP11I could continue with all the years of workouts I have recorded on the Polar website, although that is a more sentimental than practical issue and can be obviated.
Are you sticking to your vivoactive advice or could I also get the m600 or whatever else I can think of?
Thank you in advance for your patience and for the interest you have shown.
I don't have any references on how the M600 works with intervals yet, I'm still waiting for a test unit
I miss the Polar M400, a great heart rate monitor, in terms of value for money.
The Polar M400 was present in last year's list, but TomTom has given it the final touch with the Runner 3, at a similar price, surpassing it in many areas.
I have two questions about the bePRO bike power meter from Favero:
1) Are you able to measure the time you spend standing up on your bike like the Garmin Vector 2 power meter does?
2) Is it valid for MTB? Is there any difference between road cycling and mountain biking power meters? Resistance perhaps only?
Those metrics are specific to Garmin, you won't have them at bePRO.
On mtb use there would be no greater problem than using a road pedal: just clip on one side, road cove shoe that allows you to ride in the field, etc
And I'm waiting for a deep alnalusis from foterunner 35 and you don't even mention it?.
For running 2-3 times a week and a little bit of everything better than a "bracelet", right?
Although the Apple Watch 2 is itchy enough.....the battery every day or day and a half to put it on charge....
The FR35 should be arriving soon from Garmin, as well as the Apple Watch I bought one from when it was released and I'm waiting for the shipment, so you'll have proof of both ;-).
I read in the guide that the Polar M 400 is no longer among the options you recommend. Something happened with this watch? I was planning to give one away soon, but if you think it's a better option the Tom Tom changed my preferences.
Greetings, my friend.
Eduardo, I'm sorry, I read a previous comment where you explained this matter. That's what you get for reading the newspaper and not the comments. Greetings and thank you.
You're welcome, Alfonso.
There's nothing wrong with the Polar, just that today the TomTom is a more logical choice because it offers better performance at a similar price. You also have the different options of music and/or optical sensor.
Hi Eduardo, I find the article very interesting. I wanted to ask you something specific about the Garmin fenix 3. About the route tracking screen in ascents and descents, it comes out directly as a data screen once you have downloaded the track and you are following it, or is it a data screen that you have to download previously from the IQ? I imagine it is the first thing. I have tried to look for it and I can't find it. Thanks for your time
First of all, this is not a feature that requires you to install anything through Connect IQ.
What do you really do? You sell...
you can win garmin fenix3 in trainings maybe not in mountain and gps data quality. same as ambit3 vertical . you can't compare with ambit3 peak neither in battery nor in gps data quality. as it smells like a seller . keep selling smoke
If I was here to sell, I wouldn't care if you bought the Peak, the Vertical or the Fenix 3. Or I'd recommend the more expensive one, the Spartan.
But I don't know, you explain to us that clearly you use all of them regularly and so I will stop selling smoke.
Good afternoon Eduardo, first I would like to thank you and congratulate you for the piece of work you have put in, and then I would like to ask you a question.
In your multisport watch comparisons, you quote the Garmin Fenix 3 as saying " in cycling it is almost like an Edge cyclocomputer, including navigation with turn indication", 1TP11Could you tell me what is the exact way it warns before making a turn when following a route?
Greetings and Thanks!
That statement I make with respect to the 735XT, you got a bit mixed up 🙂
I'm asking your opinion on whether the new Stryd and V800 would be a good match, i.e. what parameters would it collect. I think it only matches in cycling mode and therefore the speed zones would not be valid for running. I also think they're going to release another monitor clock soon. I have it pre-set and I'm waiting but I'm about to back out and ask for a rewrite.
Besides, the running power zones say that they are not the same as the cycling ones, so I see it as a bit of a mess. I see that they let the hare go but if you are not a lynx you don't hunt it.
I hope you can tell me that I'm all about the polar life, but if we have to change...
Greetings and thank you very much for everything
Well no, the Polar V800 and Stryd don't get along very well... I would wait a few days before making decisions, it is possible that in Kona Polar present
Good, very good article. Do you have information or do you suspect that they will soon release a replacement for the garmin 920xt? I imagine that the 930xt will have optical sensor for example among its improvements. For the triathlete I see more complete the 920xt than the 735, hence my question.
There's no information. We were all waiting for a replacement for the 920XT, but the surprise came with the 735...
Saved by the altimeter, the 735XT is far more complete than the 920XT.
The first thing I want to thank you for is the detailed analysis, they are very complete and help a lot when it comes to deciding between the many options available.
I'd like to ask you a question. I've been using an M400 polar fleece for a few months now, mainly for running in the city and occasionally to be able to record hiking routes with the GPS. The problem is that in this second case my battery runs out of power (from 6-7 hours, depending on the route, it goes into safe mode and suspends the GPS). On long routes I can do 8-10 hours.
After reading several pages I was practically convinced to make the leap to the Garmin Forerunner 230 that fulfills what I am looking for (up to 16h of operation with GPS), but in view of a possible upgrade of the V800 I have seen quite close offers in price (including HR sensor, bike mount, cycling cadence sensor) and I am in doubt. I especially like the extended mode with GPS (up to 50h) and, although it is not the most important thing, the aesthetics of it. I am also used to the use of the Polar Flow platform.
I'd appreciate it if you could give me your opinion on this.
I always recommend that if you are happy and used to an online platform (Polar Flow in this case) you should continue to use it, firstly because you already know it, and secondly because it is where all your workouts are.
It's not a traumatic change.
For the use you want to make of it, I think the V800 is more interesting because you can also set routes for mountain sailing. It doesn't have the most advanced navigation, but you already have something that's not in the 235. If the optical sensor isn't essential, in your case you'll be happier with the V800.
And pay attention to the web, because when Black Friday comes I will be publishing all the existing discounts and I am sure that the V800 will be among the discounted models.
Hello good morning, I am fond of running and wanted to buy a GPS watch, many colleagues told me that the step with a watch with optical sensor for measuring the pulses, however, many are those who advise me otherwise, because according to them is still nothing reliable, fails in many cases and do not give a real number or with the same accuracy as a watch with measurement in the chest. My doubt was more than anything you think about the optical sensor, if you see it recommended to take the step, if it is reliable and advisable. A greeting and thank you very much.
You can take a look at the tests of any of these optical pulse sensor watches and see the comparisons, for example, the Vivoactive HR: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/garmin-vivoactive-hr/
For someone who starts the optical pulse sensor it's no problem. You won't be doing millimeter intervals in terms of retrievals and so on, and you can always pair a chest sensor exactly like any other model.
Hey, first of all, thanks for getting back to me.
I read the article you sent me but it didn't solve my doubts about the reliability of the optical sensor either.
I've read several articles in several pages and also in your blog and my doubts are practically summarized to these models:
1.-Tomtom runner 3
2.-Garmin vivoactive HR
3.-Gramin Forerunner 35
4.- Polar M400
I don't know which of these models to choose, I've read several things about all of them but I still have doubts, I don't know which is the most complete, the one with the best battery, the best software, the best GPS, the most reliable, etc etc
It was to see if you could help me to solve my doubts and to choose one or the other.
Thank you very much.
It's not a question of which is better, but which is better suited to your use. And only you know that.
Discard the Polar M400 and opt for the one that suits you best.
I'll throw out the Polar M400? Because? it's a great watch, I think.
It's a great watch, but compared to the other three models it's clearly further back, which is normal because they are newcomers to the market and the Polar is 2 years older.
Hello, so my use will be, now at the beginning, to go out about three times a week, around an hour or so, then in the future God will say... little by little I hope to increase. I want it so that I can evaluate the distance, time, pulses, average speed, etc etc but then I also want it for the day to day, so the issue of the battery is also important to me, I do not want to be charging it every day.
The watch that I buy I would like to have connection to the gps so that I value all that I have commented above but tmabien that had option to disconnect the optical pulsometer for when this at rest or resting is not consuming me a greater battery than necessary. This is not even if it is possible in these watches with optical pulsometer, was to see if you knew if it is possible or not. Thanks anyway.
Forerunner 35 is easy to use and for beginners, I would value it for its ease of use.
As for the battery, how long does each one last? Do you have data about it? How long does it last with the gps plugged in and plugging in the gps only for sports?
Thank you for your help.
Check the evidence on each of them. You have a specific section on autonomy.
my garmin 220 is going perfectly but at the time of finishing the training in the summary it doesn't put me anything, it puts me ---. however then if I have saved the training and this all correct, what can be?
I would recommend you to do a complete reset of the clock and configure it again, it will surely solve the problem.
I'm hesitating between buying the 920xt and the 735xt. I've used the 910xt so far and it's worked wonders. The only thing I've complained about is that it was a brick. That's why the Phoenix ruled it out.
I do all three sports but for swimming I don't use it except in triathlons (short). For the cycling part I don't have a potentiometer either. Which one would you recommend if they are at the same price today? I have to say that I am not a big fan of the optical sensor and I doubt that I will use it.
Thank you very much.
Unless you're giving the barometric altimeter a hard time, the 735XT is a better choice, especially at the same price. The optical sensor never gets in the way and the overall size is smaller.
Hi! First of all I wanted to tell you that I didn't know about your website and I was looking for a watch that fits my needs, so I met you. I think that you make a great analysis of the material, which is very helpful when buying. I wanted to see if you could help me: I am the sport that is most practical to run, sometimes mountain running, other times asphalt, on a treadmill... and I also like the high mountains. My doubt is between two watches, the Garmin Forerunner 235 or the Suunto Ambit Sport 3. At first I was determined to buy the Garmin although the optical pulse meter was a bit backward as I have read quite a few people who are not very reliable. After looking at the Suunto it seems that I was more convinced because I saw that it had a compass and it was something that I also wanted, but then I began to read complaints about the synchronization with Android. I would like you to give me a little bit of your opinion, seeing that you handle quite a lot of this. Thank you very much.
Indeed, Suunto has not yet achieved a smooth sync with Android, and has been trying for some time...
If you want a good sync with Android I recommend Garmin, they are the best in that aspect, both maintaining the connection and transfer speed, but if you're going to make a mountain race I would value the option of barometric altimeter and magnetic compass, which the 235 does not have.
Eduardo in my practical case usually and at amateur level, swimming and biking (spinning); and my interest is in having information because I am 50 years old and I only want to have basic information about the heartbeat (also in water); calories consumed; evolution; etc and little more, except what may be interesting for daily life. But of so many teams I do not know where to place myself, because I feel that I can spend unnecessarily much money, and on top of that not have what I am looking for. Would you recommend me some watch or some specific ones to choose from. Thank you very much and it is very interesting what you say.
I would recommend the Vivoactive HR if you are willing to do without the heart rate when swimming. At present there are few models that allow you to record your heart rate underwater.
If you want FC in swimming yes or yes, then the V800.
Thank you, Eduardo.
I think you're right and I'm going to have to give it up because the price of the V800 is too high for these conditions.
And, within the Vivoactive HR there are several prices that you recommend me, because at least, it will help me to control myself on the bike and what specific features I would have in swimming. A hug
There is only one model, the only difference is the length of the strap. In the test you have all the details regarding swimming: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/garmin-vivoactive-hr/#Natacion
And what do you think of the Garmin Forerunner 910XT HRM
It's a very capable watch, but it's pretty beaten up to date. To buy it now, I wouldn't contemplate
My doubts, Eduardo, after all I've read, are whether the v800 measures pulses on a bike or in a gym without the need for tape, as it does in swimming, and if, when viewing it, its screen is not in color and what link you recommend for its purchase that at least compensates for the mess we give you
To measure pulses the V800 needs tape at all times, it does not have an optical pulse sensor. The display is black and white. Right now the best option is the special edition Javier Gómez Noya (with sensors and handlebar support) through Amazon: http://amzn.to/2iAJlUR
Thank you Eduardo, I don't know if the same as Garmin (as you said in your last comment) is updating equipment, wait for Polar to do it, especially in the V800 because using tape for all activities is less practical nowadays given the advances (I care less in water because there is no more option) and visually it is very improvable. What do you think Eduardo, you who know the market so well?
You'd better wait, because Polar is present at CES. But I can say little more about it.
Thank you very much Eduardo. I agree with you. I'll wait a bit and I'll be waiting for your comments regarding the improvement of the v800 because it's the model that best fits what I'm looking for and I need
Thank you very much, Eduardo, as always. Happy New Year
Thank you for your analysis, it has been very interesting for me, since I am thinking of comparing a GPS watch soon. I am a very sporty person, I usually practice running (I do half marathons) , I go to the mountains, I play football... sometimes I even hit the bike...
That's why I would like a watch that measures my pace, distance travelled, kilometres driven... especially with the aim of improving my marks
I've been looking at the TomTom Runner 3 and the Polar M400... mostly because they cost less than 150 euros which is what I can afford. Can you think of any more? Which one do you recommend?
Thanks a lot, crack!
In that price range the most interesting is the TomTom Runner 3. I would also take a look at the Garmin Vivoactive. But the TomTom does quite well and also has route navigation.
Good morning, Eduardo!
I have a doubt and seeing that you know so much about the subject I would like to know your opinion 🙂
I'm looking for a watch to run and leave my cell phone at home... the must-haves for me are:
- Heart rate monitor on the clock
- Music capability
So far I've seen that the TomTom Adventurer has everything (and it doesn't shoot up in price), but I don't see if any other watch you recommend meets those requirements...
Thank you very much!
Well, with those three requirements, the Adventurer is the only one who does. Especially because of the possibility of playing music.
Well, with those three requirements, the Adventurer is the only one who does. Especially because of the possibility of playing music.
How about Eduardo!
First I congratulate and thank you for the incredible article, few compare all the options and give an objective point of view and taking advantage of your mastery of the subject, I wanted to ask you something.
Don't you think Samsung Gear S3 could do better in smartwatch?
I'm a marathon runner, I enjoy trail and multisport (martial arts, gym, etc) but I also enjoy a good smartwatch, that's why I don't know if I should buy the fenix Hr 3 or wait for the Gear S3, what would you recommend?
Greetings and thanks
Thank you, Oscar.
I don't like to think about models I haven't tried because of that... because I haven't tried them. Anyway, I don't think it's going to be an option to value for someone who gives so much importance to sport.
Yes, it has GPS and a pulse sensor (which will have to be seen for quality), but it does not have behind it a series of services that are present in any other dedicated device. It is very different from the proposal of Polar with the M600, where it has integrated an app and has achieved a round product despite being based on a smartwatch.
The Gear S3 will probably be like the Apple Watch. Good smart watch, but pretty lame on sports performance.
I'm looking for a watch to be able to record GPS routes, as well as to be able to follow routes, besides being able to synchronize with the mobile phone and above all that it is waterproof. I do all kinds of sports: mountain biking, kitesurfing, mountain skiing, running... Is there such a thing?
With those needs you should opt for the Phoenix 3. It would cover everything you ask for.
For Kitesurfing you have applications through ConnectIQ: https://apps.garmin.com/es-ES/search?q=surf&start=0&showAllDevices=false&appType=datafield&count=30&sort=MOST_POPULAR
It looks really good but it's a bit out of my price range 🙁 Is there something cheaper that would be a good option? Is the Vivoactive HR or the Forerunner 230 good options?
The Vivoactive HR is the other option, but for route tracking you would have to make use of dwMaps through ConnectIQ, it is not integrated in the clock itself.
How does the dwMaps work? Reading your reviews I'm undecided between the Vivoactive HR and the TomTom Adventurer. The main difference is that the second one has route tracking? If the dwMaps does more or less well because of the price difference I would keep the first one. Are there more differences to value? Thanks!
It works more or less correctly. It is a complete application (so it is not Garmin data fields), so it has its specific configuration. In Youtube you can see quite a few videos of its operation.
I was thinking about buying the fitbit after reading the great review you did (great job!), I would use it to run between three or four days a week, I like that it has gps, but when I start to run, it connects automatically, how long can the battery last using the gps for 30-40 minutes three or four days? There are better options? Is it resistant when you shower? I have seen it in mediamark for 176 euros...thanks a lot and congratulations for your work!
You got details of the range on the watch test, take a look at it: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/fitbit-surge/
The Fitbit Surge will probably be part of the Black Friday promotions, I would wait this week to see if it gets a discount. You can check the offers daily here: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/black-friday-2016/
Thank you very much Eduardo, and once again your work is very good!
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Fitbit and water are not friends.
I have a Charge HR and running 3 days about 40-50 on average holds 3 days.
In my opinion Fitbit falls short right away for users who do some sport and ask for more than just counting the steps.
Join the thanks for the info Emilio!
Hi Eduardo. I do triathlon, BTT, open water, trail ... Of the watches that I indicate below,. which would you recommend: Polar V800, Suunto Ambit3 sport, Tom Tom Runner3 or Garmin FR 230 ? Thank you.
Ambit3 or V800. Neither Garmin nor TomTom has a multisport mode to record an activity with several sports.
Although many people ask you for advice on what to buy, I miss someone with a profile more like mine. I am a 40-year-old woman and I do sport about three or four times a week. I swim, do yoga, do bodybuilding and run on a treadmill from time to time (less than I would like because my knees are suffering). I vary the activities on demand, as I feel like it, and even if for one or two weeks I only go for a walk it is not a problem.
However, I want to start monitoring my activity, because that information will help me plan less my workouts and also to detect what works best for me. My idea is to monitor only the moments of exercise, the idea of wearing a watch/bracelet all day I don't see it...
With a budget of between 100 and 200 euros, what do you think is the best option for me?
To make it more difficult I will tell you that I was very attracted to the tomtom spark3 cardio because it includes the possibility of loading routes, since sometimes I like to do hiking routes, but I do not know if those gps routes are really practical to take them as a guide or they are not going to overcome a mobile doing the same function.
I also wonder if I shouldn't start with a more basic model and if I really take advantage of it as I believe, move on to a higher model in a year...
Thank you very much!
Yes, the TomTom Runner 3 may be a good option, as well as the Garmin Vivoactive HR, although it does not have direct navigation (yes through ConnectIQ applications such as dwMaps).
The navigation of either of these two devices is not up to what a phone can offer in terms of map, information, charging speed, etc. But its strong point is its practicality and that it does not subject the phone's battery to excessive consumption (which in an emergency, it is always better to keep charged).
Thank you very much! Fitbit (Surge and Charge HR) caused me doubts because aesthetically I find it very attractive (basically for the aesthetics, I have the feeling by the analysis, that the functionality is less focused on the sport and more on the daily activity), but I will cross my fingers so that this Black Friday comes out with an interesting offer of the tomtom or the Vivoactive HR.
By the way, I will certainly keep an eye on your list of active offers to buy through your links.
I would like to compare a watch, and from what I've read, the ones that best meet my requirements are the Garmin Forerunner 235 and 630, although as I prefer a sensor integrated into the watch (for comfort) I'm more inclined to go for the 235. As they've been on the market for some time now, I'd like to ask you if you're expecting new models in 2017, either by buying them now or waiting for the new ones.
I don't have any news at the moment.
If you want an FR630 with an optical pulse sensor, take a look at the FR735XT.
good evening. what banded pulse meter do you recommend for running 3 times a week that also serves me for crossfit and boxing practice? i would like it with 24/7 and vibration warnings. thank you very much.
Garmin Vivoactive HR is a good choice for generic multisport use.
Hello! I do 2 hours of sport daily although several disciplines, I work in the gym, fitness, running and the main thing and I like surfing. I know that is rare and so I have trouble deciding on a watch ideal for surfing and that is good for other sports, I can adapt to somewhat high prices, would you recommend one that would be good for the sports I do? Thanks in advance.
I can't tell you much about surfing, because I don't really know what metrics you expect to see. I can tell you that there are specific ConnectIq applications, but I don't know if they will meet what you're looking for.
Anyway, take a look at the Quatix 3It has information on tides, water temperature, etc.
Hi! See if you can help me, I am a football referee and I was interested in knowing how much I run during my matches, so I need a watch that does two things: it serves as a stopwatch to time the duration of each part and, very importantly, it has a sampling frequency that is as low as possible, because as a referee I make very abrupt and very fast changes of direction, and I need the sampling frequency to be low enough to lose as little information as possible. Price is not a limitation, so what do you think is the watch(s) that best suits my needs?
In your case I think that the Ambit3 Sport can be a good option. I register every second (like many others), but I think you can benefit from the FusedSpeed feature. You have it on sale right now at 50%.
Another interesting device is the Moov, which even has the optical HR to put on the cap.
I think Swimmo could be interesting, although it's still a bit green (there's a lot to come). The new Moov HR is in pre-launch, we'll have to see how it works when it reaches the market.
I have been reading your blog very carefully so first of all I want to thank you for your great work.
I have lots of doubts. I want to get a GPS watch that I can use both to run and to ride a bike. It would be advisable because I am very attracted to have a compass, altimeter and barometer because I go to the mountains or roads in my area to make routes. The option of a heart rate monitor would also be highly recommended.
Give me a hand and help me choose, because I don't know how to orient my choice with as much supply as there is on the market. I have had the FR205 so far, but it is already very old.
I'm waiting for your help. Thank you.
If you are already on Garmin's terrain, it is best to remain on the same platform, and with those requirements the best option is the Fenix 3 HR.
Thank you for responding.
Do you know if the chest strap of the FR 205 or any ANT+ would work?
Yes, any ANT+ sensor is compatible with the Fenix 3. By the way, take a look at the selection of offers I am making, as the Fenix 3 HR is quite discounted: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/oferta-gps-2016/
I've looked at the offers. I'm sure I'll buy it.
Hi Eduardo a question I am about to buy a watch this Christmas, I have read and compared some data and I am between three watches according to their price and characteristics, I hope you can help me make the best decision. The watches are the following:
1) TomTom spark 3 + Heart Rate Monitor
2) Vivoactive HR
3) Polar M400
Thanking you in advance for your response.
If you value music or the ability to follow routes, the TomTom. In everything else the Garmin is superior. As for the Polar, it is not up to the other two, the years do not pass in vain.
Thank you Eduardo for your prompt response and your work is excellent.
Hello Eduardo, first of all congratulate you for the blog, I'm hooked!!! and I met him recently thanks to a colleague. I wanted to ask you a question I hope you can help me being objective as you always do. I practice sport in general, but going to the gym, running and swimming a lot, is the most frequent. I want to buy a heart rate monitor and I have several doubts. As you know, buying a product like this requires a lot of thought. I have doubts between the fénix 3 HR or suunto spartan. I like the idea of having the pulse on my wrist and forget about the band (phoenix) and on the other hand, the suunto is more modern, lighter, ant technology, etc... I don't go out much in the mountains, only once in a while, so maybe I don't use the suunto as much as I should, and where I have read they say that it is more aimed at people who practice trail due to its wide range of cartography.
Other comrades tell me to wait for the beginning of the year, as the appearance of garmin 5 is known,
In addition to these options there is a heart rate monitor that meets my requirements cheaper, taking into account that the basics I need is: GPS, stroke control and swimming meters and different types of sport also of course the planning of demanding training (gym and race).
Thank you very much for your time and I hope you can help me, since I don't know what to do, to see if you can get me out of it.
Thank you from a faithful follower.
About the Spartan, it'll be a great watch but it's still a little green. You can see the details here: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/suunto-spartan-situacion-actual-y-previsiones-de-futuro/
As for the Fenix 3 HR or a possible new Fenix... my recommendation is that if the current Fenix fits you, take advantage of the prices that can be found now. If there is a new Fenix presented in Las Vegas it will not arrive on the market until well into 2017, and it will not be anything cheap...
Take a look at the article I just published with the best offers for these dates: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/oferta-gps-2016/
I recently discovered your website and had doubts between 3 bracelets: the garmin vivosmart hr and polar a360, which together with the fitbit charge 2 I wouldn't know which one would suit me better. I also have an iphone in case some apps are better or worse.
I've been going to the gym since September, and I do weights and bodybuilding mostly, although one day it's time for cardio. Then one day I usually go to the pool.
Even if the fitbit is not waterproof, I wouldn't mind losing that functionality if it's worth it.
From the latter I am attracted to the application of calories, which I would find very useful to have controlled consumption and spending, although there is the myfitnesspal out there.
The other two look good but since they don't have that functionality included in the apps...
Besides, the polar bear does not have 24-hour continuous HR.
In short, what would be a good option:
- I would like 24h FC as the garmin (and I think the fitbit too, and I don't know if the polar can already). If you think it's unnecessary to have 24h FC monitored, you can comment it.
- One way to carry the calories, even if it's not in detail.
- The water resistance would not be indispensable if the fitbit was better (although it's nice to be able to shower and swim without having to remove it), but it would be a plus.
- Make it resistant to training, some say that the fitbit is loose there.
Thank you and sorry about the badge.
If you don't mind the absence of notifications or the water resistance, the Fitbit Charge 2 may be the best option, especially if you think about the application, it's the best one yet. Today I published the complete test, you can see it here: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/fitbit-charge-2/
If you want notifications instead, then the Garmin option would be best.
Hello Very good reviews that you do helped me decide for which to buy, I wish that detailed in the pages of each product as some almost sold without explanation.
Fantastic page. I had an idea what watch to buy, but now I'm clear. Thanks a lot, you've made my day.
I would appreciate it if you could tell me which would be the best sports watch or activity wristlet you can recommend for the following sports:
Paddle four or five days a week and indoor, elliptical and treadmill (indoor) and swimming, although for the latter if I do not record data is no problem, but if I am interested I can swim with him. These last three I practice more sporadically (once or twice a week).
The main condition is that the FC meter is integrated (not having to use a band).
The level of training is user
Thank you very much in advance and congratulations on the page.
You're not going to find anything that will reliably record paddleball or tennis.
As for an all-purpose watch, I think the best choice is the Garmin Vivoactive HR.
And some product of Polar?. I ask it because by its application appears the sport tennis, and at least...
No, even if you include tennis, the calculation of distance will be VERY approximate. It is the way the technology works, it does not depend on the manufacturer.
First of all, congratulations on your analysis.
I'm hesitating between the Forerunner 235 and the Vivoactive HR.
I usually go for a run 2-3 times a week but I also like to run on a treadmill, do elliptical trainings or do static cycling. I don't do swimming.
In the summer I usually ride a MTB and do several walks in the mountains.
I don't want it for everyday use but rather for sport.
With this profile, which one would you choose?
On the other hand, I am interested in the topic of altitude with forerunner 235. Is there a way to know what altitude I am at at a given moment and the accumulated altitude (not later looking at garmin connect but at the clock itself) with the GPS activated?
If you want an altimeter and don't care about advanced training, clearly the Vivoactive is a better choice
Hi Eduardo, first of all I want to congratulate you for your analysis, it's great. I've been reading almost all the devices for a couple of days and I'm still dazed, it's hard to choose.
I wanted to ask you, being at the beginning of the year, is it worth buying me a 200 euro jalopy now? More than anything in case in a month or two they start bringing out new smartbands I would expect, but I have no idea what time of the year they launch them.
Is there a pattern to that or do they just pull them out when they're ready?
I know my question is a little weird, but it would hurt a lot to buy an activity bracelet and have another one taken out after two weeks.
If what's on the market right now meets your needs, I don't see any impediment in making the purchase. If you wait for the possible new products... there will always be new products on the horizon.
Depending on the type of product there are different calendars for presentations, but for the type of device you are looking for they are usually announced in September-October, in view of the Christmas campaign.
Thanks for your answer, knowing that there may be almost a year left for new devices I decided to buy one, specifically for the garmin vivosmart hr.
I use it to run and to go to the gym, I'm happy with it. The notifications are good, and the garmin application is very complete.
I made the decision to buy this one based on all your analysis, so thank you very much for your work. You are a crack!
Hello eduardo , I really like the knowledge you have and how you talk about each model. I would like you to recommend me a watch I have seen the garmin 735,630,235, Those models I like a lot for its design and low weight , change of. Straps, color screen and touch. The vivo active also seemed to me very complete but I like more the. Design of the others, I am not a marathon athlete my sport is cycling and walking and I would like a watch that can swim after all that I read I am opting for the 630. What do you think?
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If you want to swim you can only do it with the 735XT or the Vivoactive HR. And the 735XT does not have a touch screen. The others do not support swimming.
Thank you very much. Happy day.
Hello Eduardo, thank you for your analysis and congratulations for your analytical skills, you help a lot of people. I would like to ask your advice for a somewhat complicated case. My father needs a heart rate monitor for exercise focused on cardiac rehabilitation. He suffered a heart attack 14 years ago and due to the progressive weakening of his heart, he had an ICD (defibrillator) implanted in his side 2 years ago as a preventive measure. To strengthen the heart muscle and to slow down as much as possible a decrease in ventricular function as time goes by, he needs to do exercises, such as fast walking or jogging, doing sets. We do not know exactly why, a heart rate monitor with a band (we have tried several: garmin etrex 30 and others) is not able to transmit the heart rate when my father starts to exercise, it may be because the signals from the band interfere with those of the LAD or other reason. Thus, I see optical heart rate monitors as a solution to this problem. I have read reviews of several devices, such as the garmin vivosmart hr, the forerunner 35, the tomtom sport cardio, the polar m200, etc. but I can't make up my mind, as I need to find something that is really reliable. Some come with a better algorithm according to the graphs, others have 2 sensors, others 3, etc. and I can't find the best for this particular case, where something quite reliable is needed due to the delicate nature of my father's illness. I do not know if 1TP11Could you advise me a heart rate monitor, with or without gps, that can be totally reliable or that is more accurate than others among all the tests you have done. Also, something important, is that on a screen you can see the pulse field along with the time, for poder do well series without having to change screen (the latter is less important, especially I am concerned about the reliability in terms of sensor pulse - algorithm).
Thank you for your help.
Given the high need for reliable data, there are two that stand out above the rest. Valencell's and Mio's sensors. They're above the rest.
Suunto will launch its Valencell sensor watch soon, but the price will be quite high. With Mio sensor there is for example the first TomTom Cardio.
It is a highly contrasted sensor, and for its requirements the watch is sufficient.
Eduardo, you still recommend Forerunner 235?, it's been on the market for a while now and I don't know if there are any new releases planned.
Do you recommend another model, taking into account that its features are similar to this one (the wrist pulse meter is not essential)
About recommendations, you have what I recommend in the shopping guideIt is still fully in force.
For running, both 230 and 235 are great options.
Good day, I am about to buy a "Suunto ambient 3 sport" without HR. how does it change? does it modify the operation?
Simply that it does not include the chest sensor
Good night, Eduardo.
I'm doing sport again after a long period of inactivity, I'm currently training three times a week with a personal trainer and I would like to start running. I would like to train on an interval basis and use my watch to monitor my strength training as well as my return to the pool in the future. I'm among three models
1) TomTom Multisport Cardio, I see as an advantage its price but as a disadvantage its limitations when entering intervals.
2)Garmin Vivoactive HR
3) Phoenix 3
What do you recommend?
Thank you very much in advance
The Vivoactive HR is a good candidate, but you can't program advanced training, so if you are going to use this feature, it is better to choose another model. For these trainings, the configuration that Garmin allows is the most advanced. The Fenix 3 (or the 735XT) would be a good option considering the issue of intervals.
I'm looking for a smart watch for everyday life. I practice a lot of sports (basketball, running, cycling, swimming in the pool and some sea, gym, hiking ...), and I'm looking for something that can be used in all this and also send me some notification from the phone. What you must have is the ability to load maps / mountain routes (that you can see the route and also if I deviate a lot tell me where to go to find the way) and that you can use it in the pool to count the meters of swimming / strokes. Also tell you that I preferably look for something that is not extremely large or heavy, as I am a boy with small wrists.
What do you recommend? So far, of everything I've seen and read to you, I've kept the following:
- Ambit 3 Sport.
- Ambit 3 Peak.
- Garmin Fenix 3.
- Tomtom Runner 3.
Is it worthwhile to be able to store and play mp3's to associate with my bluetooth headset or does it burn out the battery too much?
Thank you very much and keep up the good work. You're doing a fantastic job.
Well, with those requirements, none of those. Since you want it a little smaller, then the best option is Garmin 735XTIt meets all of them.
Thank you very much for answering so quickly.
And the mp3 thing as you see it on these phones?
Why doesn't the Tomtom comply with them (in theory it's not the best at all but it looks very complete)? Because maybe I can do without the size to be able to listen to songs.
The TomTom has no phone notifications. And the other three are much bigger than the 735XT, which is smaller and lighter.
Hello, from my point of view if they are very useful, of course it depends on what you are going to use, in my case I am a person who is physically active and I do mountain bike route so I bought a smartwatch with GPS because you never know when you might need it, I bought it here in Mexico in Farmacia Guadalajara and it has served me well, I recommend it.
I have just purchased the "Suunto Spartan sport"; watch that also gives me the option to catch signal through the "glonasss". if I activate it ("ON") increases the reception?
I mean, do I get a signal sooner and/or better?
and that would have some drawback (shorter battery life, . . .)
Thank you very much and best regards!
Here are all the details about GLONASS and what it involves: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/glonass-que-es-uso/
Dear friends it would be very useful to have a real review of the optical sensors because my impression is that they are not really measuring or when they are not measuring they lean on the accelerometer to make people think that there is a real measurement. The simplest test is to move your arm without exercising and you will see with the pulsations they go up with a difference of more than 30 points. If the above is not cheating, then what is? In usa they have sued Fitbit for this or better said for the real differences that exist. When I realized this I returned the watch. My conclusion is that the technology is not developed but they try to sell it anyway.
Well, I'm not a regular sportsman, for now I just walk and bike from time to time, although I'm starting to get interested in activity monitoring and health care (I use applications like Salud, Argus or Runkeeper). I've noticed the vivemart 3, HR/HR+ or the TomTom Spark 3 (just like the Runner I think), and I'm hesitant about the GPS issue. I find it interesting not to have my mobile phone on me and it's essential that it's waterproof, as I don't like having to take it off for the shower, pool or beach. What do you recommend?
For that kind of activity, from someone who is not a sportsman, bracelets are usually the most indicated, not precise of the GPS.
https://www.amazon.es/Garmin-Vívosmart-actividad-pulsómetro-integrado/dp/B0171NKAR6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&tag=c1mes-21&qid=1495097761&sr=8-1&keywords=vivosmart+hr ">With the Vivoactive HR you'll have more than enough, I don't think spending more money is going to be worth it.
I see you link the Vivosmart HR but mention the Vivoactive HR, I understand you mean the first one. The idea is to try to get out more with the bike and walk more, I'm looking at these: - Garmin Vivosmart 3 (I think it comes out now) and I like it better than the HR - Garmin Forerunner 35 - TomTom Spark 3 Cardio The price difference is not much between them and I would rather have some left over than have to end up switching to a superior one, other than that I like the watch format better.
Yes, mental cocoa. I meant Vivosmart HR.
Vivosmart 3 has already been released (yesterday I received a unit from Amazon), but for your type of activity there is not much difference between the two models.
But if you prefer clock format, that's clear.
Will you review the Vivosmart 3? I'm waiting to see it. About if I prefer clock format is clear, you mean any particular model?
Yes, there will be a test of the new Garmin bracelet.
I mean, if you prefer a watch, that's clearly where you're going to lean. And by the way, today the one on sale is the Garmin Forerunner 35.
While I'm waiting for the review, a subject came to my mind that I don't know if it will help me, I have a Casio watch with a band on the chest, the watch broke but the band is new, is it suitable for any other device?
You'll need to check if it has ANT+ or Bluetooth connectivity
Hello! First of all I would like to tell you that I found this and other articles that you have published very interesting:
I started using a gps watch a couple of years ago because a friend recommended it to me and I have become really hooked on these technologies.
To begin with I decided to buy the m400 polar fleece, because of its quality/price ratio. I practice rowing, 6 days a week, always using the watch, with the chest strap so I don't lose a single piece of information during my training sessions, and I also usually run and ride my bike... I don't stop and give the watch a lot of power, and every time I have the feeling that it's getting shorter. As you can imagine, when I use it so much, when I have long training sessions every 3 or 4 days I have to charge the watch, if I make a long bike ride every 2... and I'm thinking of changing to a more top-of-the-range model.
My intention was to wait for polar to see if they get a replacement for the v800, something more renewed and with good battery life to avoid changing brands, because in polar I already have all my trainings saved to compare, my statistics etc.. but I also call a little to try the change to a fenix3 for example.
What would you recommend?
Well, if you row, what I would recommend is a watch that can record that kind of workout. Like the Fenix 3. And if you want good battery life, then a watch that lasts, and lasts. Like the Fenix 3.
I think that's the excuse you were looking for... :-).
The replacement for the V800 will eventually arrive sooner rather than later, but I doubt very much that it will incorporate paddle registration for rowing sports.
As for training on the Polar platform, if you are an Android user you can use SyncMyTracks to move everything from one place to another.
Thank you so much for responding so quickly and for the help! I think I'll try the change!
The Fenix 3 HR It's now on saleIt's a very good price, similar to Black Friday.
Hello. I would like to spend at most in a clock about 150 euros, I would like it to be the most complete, I look for you to tell me the distance I do, calories, pulse ... etc
I practice, paddle, squash, fronton, tennis, gym, bike, some swimming...
What do you advise?
If you're going to swim, I recommend the Vivoactive, it's worth it: https://www.amazon.es/Garmin-vívoactive-Smartwatch-color-blanco/dp/B00RE1UKLC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495827429&c1mes-21&sr=8-2&keywords=garmin+vivoactive
My congratulations for this article because it is just what I was looking for, I have a polar for many years and I want to update, because lately I see myself using more the mobile phone to record precourses, which mine did not. Well, to the point, I started by looking at the Polar M400, but as I like to look at all options I tell you I will use it to record Running and Gym, but if the pack has a band that can fit the mobile to record the strava pulses would be great, because I save the purchase of a GPS for the bike and when you go out cycling not carry the device, the fact of having a meter in the wrist would be very good for the gym, so to date that option is recommended not exceeding 250 euros and the ideal price of the M400.
I don't rule out you telling me "Look, Luis, buy X watch and Y band and spend the same and you will have a luxury set".
If you want it with a sensor so that it can be connected to the mobile, then discard one with an optical sensor because otherwise you'll be spending twice as much.
My recommendation: the Ambit3 Sport of this offer: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/semana-22-al-28-mayo/
The sensor can be connected via Bluetooth to the mobile phone.
Thank you very much, Eduardo. I appreciate your advice.
Last question, if I set the minimum and optimum level at 300 euros, what would be the recommendation?
For that kind of use I really don't think it's worth your while to spend more money than the Suunto is worth. The only thing you want is to have some more smart watch functions. In that price range I would opt for the 735XT (again, at a good price in the link above)
Hello Eduardo once again, thank you very much 🙂
Well the truth is that the question had a little "trap" I mean, the sunnto seems to me that prefectly fulfills what I need, intelligent watch functions of the daily do not bring me anything but if the functions of sports watch, the case is that I have seen the tomtom adventure and I thought that I recommend it in the new price range, from ignorance what strikes me attention in the tomtom is the vision of the map, well as functions such as for Ski / Snow, even if I do not do it every day, but hey it is appreciated. Between the Suunto or the Garmin (which I understand does not have a band if not that it goes part) or the tomtom or another, the idea would be to have the biggest functions at the sporting level, the daily use to me does not bring me much 🙂
And thank you very much
In the end I opted for the 170€ suunto to see how it goes 😀 Thank you very much.
In this price range, I would hesitate between J. Gómez Noya's Polar V800 and the Garmin Vivoactive HR. In addition, both are suitable for swimming.
What do you think, Eduardo?
In this price range I would hesitate between the Gamin Vivoactive HR and the
I have a doubt, I just bought the Gear S3 and it's going great, but I'm starting to run and I'm still doing some running intervals. I've seen that the Mapmyrun application gives me that possibility in my mobile, but I have a pretty big mobile and I bought the gear s3 for its independence. Do you know if there's any way to import those trainings to the Gear or if it can import them at all? or do you know of any application inside the gear that can program several intervals?
Well, I'm sorry, but I can't tell you anything about the Gear.
Congratulations on your website is fantastic and thanks for sharing your knowledge, I know you have a lot of work behind you.
What would you recommend for HIIT workouts based mainly on body weight exercises and sprints in the summer season. From what I have read it is essential to use the chest strap because the wrist sensors are lost at high heart rates.
Another must-have for me is the timer, which seems like a silly thing that any 20 euro watch has but some smartbands don't.
Finally the size is important to me because I will wear it all day and I have a small wrist.
Thank you very much.
Yes, for rapid changes in intensity you will have better data with the sensor on your chest, and when it comes to exercise it is practically the only option.
I think the Polar M400 is a watch that fits quite well to what you're looking for. The sensor of Polar works very well and is not an excessively large watch, apart from being able to set a multitude of variables in the sports profiles.
I'm looking for a GPS heart rate monitor with:
- multisport activities
- route navigation
- optical sensor
It's mainly for cycling but I also run + swim occasionally and I have a goal to do my first triathlon at the end of the year. But the problem is that I haven't found one with these features for less than 300 euros which is my budget...
1º If I start thinking about which functionality to discard to square the price below 300 euros... the most dispensable for me I think would be the optical sensor, since these sensors today do not measure the pulsations in the water, right?
2º Assuming I rule out the optical sensor and focus on those that allow recording multisport activities, below 300 the possibilities are reduced to the Garmin 920XT and the PolarV800... or do you know any other model?
3º And then of those two, which one do you recommend? The only difference I see is that Garmin has a much longer battery life and Polar is right now with your Amazon Prime offer almost 50 euros cheaper than Garmin?
- Which one is better for route navigation?
- Do the bands of the packs I put you in the following links serve to measure the pulse while swimming?
- Only the PolarV800 has a bike mount?
Garmin Forerunner 920XT HRM 287 euros https://www.amazon.es/Polar-V800-Javier-Gomez-Noya/dp/B01FRA6JRK
Polar V800 Javier Gomez Noya 239 Euros (for 4 hours with your Amazon Prime offer) https://www.amazon.es/Polar-V800-Javier-Gomez-Noya/dp/B01FRA6JRK
Thank you for your contributions on this great page and I hope to thank you in less than 24 hours! 😉
Some optical sensors already begin to record underwater heartbeats in a more or less reasonable way - the Suunto Spartan Sport Wrist HR for example does this, as does the Polar M430 (but it has no swimming metrics and is not a multisport watch).
There would also be the Suunto Ambit3 Sport, cheaper sth.Compared to the other two, it loses in the absence of a barometer.
The Polar sensor does measure CF under water. Garmin would need an HRM-Tri or HRM-Swim sensor.
In route navigation the two are quite similar, there is nothing that makes me choose one or the other.
Polar does include a bike mount (and cadence sensor), which Garmin does not.
The truth is that at the price it is and with what you are looking for... I don't think you have a better candidate than Polar. I wouldn't doubt it too much, that the offers are not only limited in time, but also in quantity.
First of all, I would like to thank you and congratulate you for all the work you do, which makes it easier for us to make our choices.
My question is about multi-sport watches. How many sports differ...
I practice road cycling, running and swimming. Now that I have a knee injury I have changed running to walking and canoeing, continuing with cycling and swimming. All this at an amateur level, I am not a professional.
I was thinking about the m430 polar because of my economic possibilities and the features it offers. I read other comments that advised the Garmin vivoactive or the Fenix6 (I think it was).
I hope I've explained myself.
What watch would you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
Oh, and I forgot, once or twice a week I practice paleotraining, I guess on the clocks it would be like a crossfit...
See if it is possible to measure the work in each of the modalities.
Thanks again! 🙂
A multi-sport watch refers to those that allow several activities to be linked together, and therefore serve for sports such as duathlon or triathlon.
In your case the most suitable would be the Vivoactive HR (if swimming is in a pool), as it has support for rowing sports, something you won't find in the Polar.
Wow! Excellent note, very complete. I really appreciate you taking the time to research, test and recommend. I never had a sports watch and the truth is that I've been going around for weeks to buy one. From the article I could see several options, but I'm still a little hesitant. I mainly do indoor sports (spinning, exercise bike, bodybuilding, crossfit, fitness). Sometimes I go out cycling and don't run (I have a problem with my foot), if I go out walking a lot. What watch do you recommend? I'm from Argentina so I have to buy it outside and ask for it to be brought to me, I wouldn't want to miss out on the purchase. Thank you!
In your case I think the best would be the Garmin Vivoactive HR or the Polar M430.
Thanks a lot! I'll see if I can get some.
Great job Eduardo. Very complete analysis of each and every one of the articles. In my case I want to start mountain biking as a main activity 2 or 3 days a week, but previously and as a complement to run to gain depth, as well as swimming occasionally in the pool or open water. What watch do you recommend? Thank you!
You have to go for multisport watches. I mean, triathlon models. There's a lot to choose from here, it depends on the budget you want to spend
Price/quality ratio, which one do you recommend? Suunto, Garmin, Polar... ? The top price would be 300 - 400
With that budget my choice would be the Garmin 735XT.
Hi Eduardo! Congratulations on your work. I didn't know the web and I find it super interesting and practical, with some deep but very practical analysis.
My question is about the Polar M200 heart rate monitor.
After the birth of our first child, my wife is getting back into the sport. In January of this year I gave her an M200 as a gift in order to use it for her running sessions. But soon after a medical check-up, the doctor stopped her from doing any impact sport because her pelvic floor was "affected". She has been recommended to swim, which she enjoys more than running. She also does toning sessions at the gym. Could you recommend any other model or do you think that the M200 could be useful for swimming data recording?
Thank you very much for your attention.
The M200 will record heart rate data, but if you want to have metrics data, then you will need another model. Which one? Well, it depends if you only want swimming metrics or in addition to the metrics, heart rate (which to have reliably must be with a sensor on the chest).
Incredible the detail of the note, I've been reading in several websites and this was the best one I found. Thank you very much!
I'm looking for a watch for indoor use mainly, I do a lot of spinning and I would like to find something that suits this activity. I don't know if a multisport is suitable or there are better options, approx 200 EUR because where I live the currency exchange affects me a lot. Could you help me?
Thank you very much!
For indoor use I generally like to recommend Garmin Vivoactive HR.
It is possibly the best suited for use in the gym.
Perfect! I'll try to get it, it was one of the options. Thanks a lot!
I thought it was strange that the WAHOO FITNESS TICKR X was not included since they talk about this monitor. Have you tried it by chance? I do a lot of indoor (mainly spinning) and general fitness inside the gym but I don't know if it works for both, neither if I need a watch or only my cell phone is enough. I hope you have at least some reference. Greetings!
TICKR X is a great option if you need the recording function it provides, that is, if you want to record the data and synchronize it later without another device, then it's your sensor.
If you are not interested in this feature because you will always wear a watch or phone while training, you will not get the full benefit of it.
Sure I understand! It's good to check later and not in the moment. Now that you say it I think it would be a better idea a watch, it's a pity that it's so difficult to find a bike friendly one. I do spinning and rock cycling (similar to the first one but there is a lot of arm movement), so I read the most suitable would be the Vivoactive HR, do you have a better recommendation?
Today the Polar M430 sensor is one of the best performers in terms of pulse measurement. Cycling is usually complicated for optical sensors, but the absence of vibrations helps in the case of spinning. Being the accuracy of the sensor the most important thing, Polar is a better choice.
Hi, first of all I was very happy to find your website, your analysis is excellent. I'm about to buy my first monitor, but I'm looking for many things at an affordable price: I'm looking for a watch with a built-in optical sensor to measure my heart rate, which will be useful for my cycling trips, if it has sleep analysis and step monitoring or resting heart rate, much better.
From what I've read most of them have errors in calculating the frequency because it is on the wrist, and changes in rhythm and light affect the reading, however I don't want to use the chest band all the time.
Thank you very much in advance for the response, and again, congratulations on the site!
For cycling the best option is a chest sensor, there is a lot of variability yet with the optical sensors. Of the latest models tested the M430 gives very good results, but it does not yet track heart rate throughout the day (in principle it should be updated to do so). Yes of sleep.
The other option is the Vivoactive HR, although the sensor of the Polar is somewhat superior.
Hello Eduardo, excellent work you have done, but like everyone I have my doubts and would not fail in my decision.
I have a Forerrunner 15 with tape that so far has been perfect but it is time to retire, I am competing for Fireman and what I do mostly is running, swimming and gym all with series, apart from riding a bike and when I can go to the mountain, my budget is 300 euros and for that price I have seen the Polar V800 edition Gómez Noya and Suunto ambit3 peak both with tape to get in the water and be able to keep my records in the pool the Garmin 920 xt I have discarded by price and aesthetics would wear the watch all day.
I hope you can help me to choose one or the other or if there is any other option you can tell me.
Greetings. Thank you.
I guess for when you ride a bike or go on a mountain hike, the barometric altimeter is something that interests you. I mean, that rules out the new Suunto Spartan Trainer.
If the new Spartan doesn't suit you (it's a bit more limited in outdoor features), there is no clear winner between the Polar and the Suunto. In some things you are better, and vice versa.
Both are almost identically priced on AmazonI can't say that one is superior to the other, it will depend more on what you value more than the other (screen, aesthetics, autonomy, platform, etc).
Thank you very much for answering, Eduardo.
The truth is that I had not seen the Suunto Spartan Trainer I read all your report and it looks great, what does not convince me is the optical sensor of the wrist, I was almost decided to buy the Ambit3 peak Sapphire with the heart rate band (I have been offered for 295 Euros used twice) but now you have made me hesitate. What I am not very clear is whether the configuration in terms of training plans is the same in the two watches, ie whether I can create or download from Movescount in the two models the same or in the peak would have more problems being an older model.
Ambit 3 Peak: Pros: I think it is a less plastic watch, has more outdoor features, barometric altimeter, heart rate band (better accuracy), GPS is more accurate, battery life.
Cons: it is bigger and heavier, the screen has worse resolution and it is not in color, it does not have vibration, it is a model with some years behind it.
What would be your decision, knowing what it will be used for and having tried both models (which will be yes or no one of the two that I will wear on my wrist)?
Thank you for the greeting.
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For £295 you can have it brand new (and remember that by buying through the links I provide you will be helping the site).
The use in Movescount is exactly the same in both cases. When training the most notable difference is that while in Ambit3 advanced trainings (series, etc) are programmed from the mobile application and then synchronized, in Spartan they are prepared in the clock itself.
If a lot of use is going to be by mountain with continuous changes of level and very long exits (more than 5 hours) I would opt for the Ambit3 Peak.
Otherwise, I'd stick with the Spartan Trainer.
Thank you very much again.
I will definitely keep the Ambit 3 peak (I will buy it through the links) I think it is a more proven product and I have read most of the good reviews, the Spartan Trainer has not come out yet and if I pay attention to what I have read about its big brothers (Spartan Sport and Ultra) they are giving quite a few problems in addition to shorter battery life and worse results in cardiac measurements (I prefer the bad known than the good to know) I hope I am not wrong and have to change soon because it is a major investment.
Don't worry, you're not wrong about any of them
Hi Eduardo! I think I read almost all the reviews in your blog, you have a lot of dedication to do them. The problem is that I have so many things in my head that I do not know where to go! I am determined to buy a chest strap (for accuracy), the Polar H10 or Wahoo TICKR x. I would like to combine it with a watch, so I can see the data in real time. I do not need GPS, I am interested in having more functions linked to indoor, fitness, etc. This also lowers costs, as I can choose a not so new model as long as it is compatible. Do you have any recommendations? I saw for example Polar A300 or M400, I do not know if it has anything because I never had a watch. If you are so kind to guide me I would appreciate it!
Or maybe an activity bracelet?
I would recommend the M400 for this use. With its H7 sensor, it is more than sufficient
First of all, thank you for your analysis and for answering the questions.
I've finally decided to buy my first sports watch. There's so much to choose from that it's hard and I don't want to miss out since they're not cheap.
What I do most is a bit of mountain biking (I'm interested in being able to pass the route I've done to the pc), then all the indoor stuff (spinning, fitness, running on a treadmill) and I play at least once a week paddle
So I need a complete watch and not to shoot price ( I know it's hard )
I'm interested in having GPS, wrist sensor (I find it more comfortable than tape)
From what I have read I am between Polar M430, Garmin Fr 235, Garmin vivoactive hr
Tom Tom runner 3 seemed like a good choice but I think it falls short
Thanks in advance for the help and sorry if I got a bit carried away, I didn't want to have to text you anymore
For price, I recommend you take a look at the Suunto Spartan Trainer Otherwise, both the M430 and the Vivoactive HR are compliant, although they lack the navigation features that Suunto has and that you can take advantage of during MTB trips.
in trail racing garmin wins (actually according to you in almost everything) and the m400 does not either?
tom tom has given you the tip? for the price of the m400 no one gives the same performance in heart rate few, even top of the range, match it.
evidently in trail the suunto ambit 3 peak is insurmountable and it does not appear in your list either ... in short, it is noticed that garmin is your mark.
Good morning. I wanted to give my wife a gps watch but I'm really lost. She's basically going to use it for running and 3 days a week in the city and in the mountains. I looked at the Polar m430 and the tom tom runner 3. What do you recommend?
Thank you very much.
The M430 is a great option. I would also add the new Spartan Trainer for the navigation possibilities it offers, superior to the TomTom. I would only choose the latter if music playback is important.
I congratulate you and thank you for such a laudable work of teaching us and giving light to those of us who are lost in space. I will review each of your reviews, very interesting indeed, good work.
I'm just looking for a pack that fits my needs (even if I cry the pocket). You see, I practice cycling and I cycle every few years, so what I'm looking for is a pack that fits me as much as cycling, hiking with the routes and GPS navigation, height-resistant equipment and water/rain/dust. And training accessories such as bands and cadence meter.
What do you recommend? I'm not sure if GPS or watch, maybe the multisport watch? I'm waiting for your answer, greetings!
If your main activity is cycling, then a cycling computer is better than a watch. For price and performance the best option would be the Edge 820
Hello, you make a very good recommendation about which optical pulse sensor to choose, but I would like a chest band recommendation, because I have broken mine and I would like one that can be connected with ant+ and bluetooth, because I have several devices and each one needs a type of connection, and what happens is that there are times when I make a mistake and I take the one that doesn't touch. Because these optical sensors are comparable in precision to the chest bands?
Thank you very much.
If you want simultaneous dual compatibility, the best option is Wahoo Tickr.
As for the optical sensors it depends quite a bit on what kind of exercise you are doing. For running the data is usually very positive, but in other sports there is more variation.
Hello, incredible work you do, however I am so indecisive that I have not yet decided on which watch will best suit my needs, there are so many that I do not know where to start ... I hope you can get me out of doubt. I swim in the pool 4 times a week (30 min) and canyoning findes (ie, many trails and occasionally lost routes through the mountains) also cycling and running normally (2-3 times a week, 30min) on the same roads, also some indoor. I do not combine several sports, or compete, or have goals or objectives I am only interested in improving (especially in running I just started), sports and take background, so I am not interested in having too much information or options on that topic (at least for now). I am interested in a watch that measures pulses in the wrist and the subject of navigation seems to me very useful more for the topic of canyoning that for the sport itself, not to get lost, to know how much road is, slope, remaining time, to warn you if you go
P.S.: I sent another message before this one but I don't know if I sent it or if I did it well
As I wrote in the TomTom test message, I recommend the Suunto Spartan Trainer.
Good, I comment you I have an irist watch where I bought it to be able to go out to run without mobile and without headphones so that it measures me the distance that I travel and at the same time having microphone integrated if I need to make a call I can speak to the watch and it works correctly, but it loses a lot as gps, I was looking for another watch that did the same thing but all good...
Watches with the possibility of having a built-in phone are not much more. The Apple Watch series 3 in its LTE version cannot be used with Spanish operators and little else.
Simply spectacular, congratulations Eduardo! I discovered the site by chance, and I love the rigorous analysis you do. I would like to ask you, I am looking for a GPS watch primarily for swimming, with cardio measurement and can support music, which is wearable daily, 24/7 type. I come from a major knee injury and I do not know if in the future podré return to running, but in any case will be not very long distances. I would prefer not to have to use band. I do not want to spend much, around 200, no more than 250 eur. what do you recommend?
The second question maybe I descataloga....y even offends you, I wanted to ask you about sammsungs, I do not see that you stop much, however the Gear Sport seems that does not look bad and seems a good choice, as something more wearable daily. Despite the efforts of the Korean sporting their smarts still falls short? have you podido test them?
Thank you and congratulations again,
Well, I spoke about the Samsung just a few days ago...
If you want it with music there's not much to choose from - TomTom (also in the article above) or the Polar M600, which with its latest update also supports swimming.
Thanks for the quick response and sorry Eduardo, I read the article after writing the comment...about the gear cristalino....There is something that is not clear to me on the subject of music with wireless connection in water, do they really work well, what technology is needed ANT, bluetooth...? Finally, would it be preferable to purchase a separate waterproof mp3 headphones and sacrifice the music on the watch, and as for the measurement of the pulse that model you see more appropriate that does not need chest strap, mainly for swimming (or do you also consider it essential). And to make things even more complicated if I wanted to combine in open water, which model with gps would you consider more appropriate? And if I tell you that the aesthetic part is important for daily wear, let's not a mamotreto and preferably not square....y tight budget ... (the latter I'm rethinking with so many demands, but as it would also be my first decent model I do not want it to be excessive). Thanks and congratulations again.
Underwater no digital data transmission works. Neither Bluetooth nor ANT+. The sensors that work are analog or have memory to synchronize data after training is completed.
For swimming in open water, Garmin without a doubt. They have the best performance in terms of GPS.
Thanks again Eduardo, as for wrist pulse measurement for swimming which one would you recommend? (well and in general which one would you stay) The options I'm in would be Vivoactive 3 (mainly for aesthetics) price 279eur, FR 735xt (I think the price is impressive 289eur, but contrary to its cousin vivoactive aesthetics is not his forte) and Suunto (spartan trainer in 225eur, the ambit3 has also a fantastic price (188eur), but does not have the wrist heart rate monitor, and is what throws me back)
What do you think about the practice I mentioned, (basically swimming pool, although in summer some open water, gym and hopefully some race but short, and in any case some path but sporadic and that is put on a daily basis)? if you think there is any other model that I have not considered please let me know. Thank you.
Of those you indicate the only one that supports the optical swimming sensor is the Suunto. And note that the data is not 100% reliable at all times.
Suunto's problem is that in open water it performs poorly.
First of all, congratulations for the great work you are doing with your website, your analysis, advice... the truth is that it is a real wonder to read your posts because they are of great help for those of us who are a little lost, in this case in the search of a GPS heart rate monitor.
After a period of "inactivity" in the running section, I return to start again in this exciting world hehe.
Now I'm only doing 3 times a week GYM session, where I do bodybuilding exercises and some cardio on tape.
About a year and a half ago if I practiced more running, hiking and trail running. 10-15 Kms running and trail running and hiking in the mountains with the family.
What heart rate monitor do you recommend for these activities? As I say, I will continue in the Gym with bodybuilding and strength sessions (2-3 times a week) and running practice, but more focused on the trail (I am more passionate about the world of trail hehe) and some hiking trails.
I don't intend to compete, just enjoy and try to improve myself a little bit. Budget well...since I'm going to start practically again, I thought I'd spend about 200-230 euros.
Thank you very much in advance.
So for generic and quite mountainous use take a look at the two Suunto's on offer: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/ofertas-relojes-gps/
The Spartan Trainer if you want it with an optical sensor and the Spartan Sport if you don't mind the sensor on your chest and make it bigger.
Hi Eduardo, great job with this website, without a doubt the best.
I am a footballer and in the summer season I do triathlons. I swim in open and closed waters, I ride a bike and I run. I don't know which watch is more suitable for me. I am looking for a watch with good data. As for the price, my budget is about 200 euros. Which watch is the best quality/price? In summer I train almost every day. I have an iPhone. I have looked and the m600 does not seem to be a bad option but the battery life and the connectivity of the iPhone does not convince me. What do you think?
Thank you very much Eduardo
For that kind of use and with that budget don't hesitate: Suunto Spartan Trainer.
You have all the data here along with purchase links: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/suunto-spartan-trainer-analisis/
I've been reading for some time to try to find an optical sensor pulse meter but I can't quite see if they are developed enough for the activities I practice, which involve strong changes of rhythm. At the moment I have an old and basic Polar, with a chest band, but I wanted to change to something more advanced and comfortable. The sports I practice most are Body combat, body attack and spinning. From what I've seen so far, optical sensors have a hard time detecting strong changes of rhythm. Is this the case or not? If they are suitable, which model could I take? (no more than 250 euros, so I was between the Amazfit Pace 2, the Garmin Forerunner 235, the Polar M600...).
Thank you very much.
In integrated sensors in watches you will have problems, you will always have to have an external sensor either chest or an optical in the upper arm, which has better performance.
I think you have a great site and you're doing a great job.
I was thinking of buying a smart watch that measures activity and I'm getting more and more confused, I especially want it for racing series training and for the gym strength training and that measures daily activity. I started thinking about the stratos by price and performance dog your review takes me back a little bit on the whole issue of the pulse meter, looking at your other opinions I am attracted to the vivoactive 3 and the forerunner 235 I will wait to see what price they have on the first day. The issue of being tactile and more for daily use I am more attracted to the vivoactive but by price and performance I see better the 235, but I do not know if I need something so specific considering that I am not a runner.
Thank you very much, I don't know if you can help me or if you think there is a better option.
Of course if I decide on one I will buy it through a link of yours 😉.
For that use I think both Garmin models can do well, although I think you'll be more inclined to go for the Vivoactive 3 (especially that's why you say you're not a runner). As for Prime Day, everything is already set for full monitoring these days!
Thank you very much for the answer, I see that you discard the stratos. I guess so, indeed the vivoactive is more appealing to me. Do you think the poor display is a problem or can you put up with it? I'm going to wait for the 16 and see if it comes out at a good price. I'll follow your link 😉 sure.
It all depends on the expectations... I don't have any problem with the screens, because I know what they are and what they offer. The problem is if you expect a resolution like the mobile phone, because it's far from it. Anyway, despite the difference in contrast, the technology used in both models is the same so the result is similar.
I've been reading your blog for years, I love your analysis, and the truth is that it was quite helpful for me to buy the watch 2 years ago and also to recommend one to a friend.
I have since those 2 years the TomTom Runner 2, and the truth is that it goes very well even today and I am very happy with its performance in the day to day (although I had to change it twice because it burns the area where it is charged when you load it in the car, I do not know if it is something usual). Usually I run 10K races or popular races throughout the year of 6-7km. Until now I had never done really long runs, the maximum was 1h or 1h15min running preparing a half-marathon, and until then the clock was holding well in terms of battery. I did not get to run the half-marathon due to injury, so I did not get to check the limits of the battery of the clock.
The problem is that a few weeks ago I started cycling, and there I do some 2 hour runs, with GPS and pulse meter activated and I get home with the battery at its limit, maybe it can last 10-15 minutes more, but I doubt I will get to 2 and a half hours with GPS and pulse meter.
The thing is that I want to make longer outings and have them monitored until the end, so either I change my watch, or I buy some accessory that helps to extend the life of the battery, which would basically be an external pulsometer so at least I can go with the optical pulsometer of the watch off, which should extend its life quite a bit (I hope twice as much, that would be enough).
In short, my question is:
- On the one hand, would you recommend switching to a more current watch (I'm happy with TomTom and they only released the 3 which is for the most part exactly the same as the one I have)? In that case, what would you recommend? Do you have information on whether the TomTom Runner 4 will be released soon? Maybe it would be time to change, after more than 2 years already with this...
- In case you do not recommend me to change watch. How long do you think a chest heart rate monitor could extend my battery life? Do you have any special recommendation of a heart rate monitor that goes especially well and syncs well with the Runner 2? For compatibility I imagine TomTom's own, but maybe you have some other suggestion 🙂
As a side note, my medium-term goal is to run half-marathons (I don't see myself running marathons, nor do I have any interest in it) and do some triathlon (although I've had this goal for years, but swimming is not my thing, so I may never get around to it).
Thank you very much, and keep up the good work with the blog 🙂
There will be no renewal of the TomTom range, at least under your own umbrella (https://www.correrunamaraton.com/tomtom-problemas/I am not ruling out a possible sale yet, but in case there is an interested buyer it is already starting to be a bit late.
The battery life is certainly not normal, and even less so for a two year old watch, although it can be a simple battery failure as this can happen.
For the use you indicate a good candidate would be the Suunto Spartan Trainer.
Yes, just this morning I was looking around and I saw some of those rumors, that they were not planning to release a new watch for now, and they had even reduced their sports section, so it doesn't look good, and it doesn't seem a good idea in the medium term to buy the Adventurer (the truth is that it was the one that called my attention the most because of the barometer to measure the ascent on the bike more accurately), nor to buy any special accessory for that watch seeing that it has an expiration date quite close.
Next time I will try to go out with my brother's TomTom Runner, and if his holds up better in terms of battery, and if so, I will take advantage of the last weeks of warranty to send it to be repaired and hold up with the clock a few months or a year more...
As for your recommendation, the truth is that I never had a look at Suunto, too much variety in all price sectors to go to a brand with less name (although curiously I went to a brand of GPS with little history in sports accessories). But the watch you say looks good, in general it has everything I need. For interval training, I understand what you explain in the Suunto Spartan Ultra. I miss that can be configured from the mobile app or from the web, I do not know if anything changed since your article.
On the other hand, you comment in the article that it is a triathlon watch, but it does not appear in this article among your recommendations for triathlon. Make up the difference in price and take the Garmin FR 735XT even with its 2 years on the market?
Thank you very much once again 🙂
For price the Spartan Trainer is the best option (and yes, for software it's the same as the Spartan Ultra). If triathlon is still something futuristic it's more than enough, but obviously the 735XT is a watch more focused on that use.
Thank you very much ;).
For now it's something futuristic, but it's really something I want to do, but it's very hard for me to swim the stretch.
Anyway, I tried today to go out with my brother's watch, which is also the TomTom Spark Cardio, and after 2h45m of cycling, the watch still has a battery 80%, so obviously it's a problem of mine.
I'll send it to tech support and see if a 735XT offer like the one on the first day comes up again.
Hi, Eduardo. Again, my sincere congratulations on your page.
A couple of years ago I used it to buy the Tomtom spark 3 and now I'm back to renew the doll.
I run 30kms a week, with participation in 10-11k races on asphalt and the April half-marathon in Madrid (and some more depending on the year).
My pace is smooth and around 5′ km.
I practice other sports but I don't pretend to quantify them (paddle, swimming, etc), just running.
I'm in a sea of doubt after reading and re-reading everything.
Which option do you see best with the current offers?
Garmin forerunner 235 - 188
Garmin Vivoactive 3 - 199
Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR - 199'95
I'd go for the cheapest, but since they cost the same... I can't decide.
Thanks in advance!
FR235 would rule it out, it is already a few years old and is inferior to both Suunto and Vivoactive 3.
Because of your usage profile and if you will not need the navigation constantly, Vivoactive 3 will probably fit better to your usage profile.
Hello Eduardo, thank you very much for your publications which are very interesting.
I wanted your advice on a watch suitable only for open water mainly and also something for swimming pool, there are several that I am seeing but I have serious doubts about reliability as they have been released recently:
Amazfit Stratos, Fénix 5 plus, Polar Vantage V and M, Forerunner 935, Suunto Spartan Sport Wrist HR Baro, Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR, Suunto 9 and Coros Pace.
Thank you very much.
Personally, the best results I have obtained in open water swimming have been with Garmin 935 and Suunto 9.
I do triathlon and I'm looking for a watch suitable for this sport. I used to have a TomTom Runner 2 but it broke. Which ones do you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
These days there's a lot to choose from, and anyone will give you better service than the TomTom in every way.
You'll find good options in all brands: Garmin 735XT, Polar Vantage M, Suunto Spartan Trainer... and from then on, depending on your budget.
Watch out for this year's Black Friday article, because there are already some very interesting offers and others to come: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/black-friday-deporte-2018/
I do triathlon and I would like you to recommend me a watch for this sport. I had a Tomtom runner2 but it broke. I am also looking for a watch that is compatible with Strava and training pics although I am interested in more strava. As far as money goes, I am willing to pay 300-400.
Thank you in advance
With that budget and good integration with Strava I recommend the Garmin 935. You'll get the Strava segments live if that's what you're looking for. You have a good offer, including the sensors, on the link I gave you earlier.
I run 30kms a week, participating in 10km races on asphalt and preparing for the Barcelona half-marathon.
My pace is around 5′ km.
I want to buy my first sports watch. I only run on asphalt
Which option do you see best with the current offers?
Garmin forerunner 235
Garmin Vivoactive 3
Thank you in advance.
Well, of the three, I would clearly stay with the Vivoactive 3 in Italy: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/black-friday-deporte-2018/
I think it's the one that's best suited to your use.
Good afternoon, I wanted to give a watch to my guy who does cycling and I'm going crazy. My budget is 200 euros and I wanted it to have a heart rate meter and GPS for bikes. Which one do you recommend?
I have looked at the polar 440 , garmin 235 and sunto spart trainer, but I don't know if they are the most suitable for bikes
Thank you in advance
For cycling any watch will do, the only thing to keep in mind is that it is more than advisable to use a chest pulse sensor as optical sensors are not very reliable on the bike. Also take a look at the Garmin Vivoactive 3.
The Black Friday offers are already starting, so you'll find quite a few options that fit your budget. Here you can see them all: https://www.correrunamaraton.com/black-friday-deporte-2018/
Hello Eduardo and thank you in advance. I already turned to you a few years ago when I started in a more active life and you advised me a simple Vivofit....was totally accurate and suitable for a simple start in following a life a little more "active".
Now a few years later that has gone to more (I don't compete, I don't train or anything like that) and I practice fitness walking between 4/5 times a week and run about 30mn on a treadmill. As you can see it's not something serious, but it's not just a simple walk, so I'm interested in monitoring heart rate and caloric expenditure in a more efficient way than with a simple "step counter".
Having said that, I'm totally lost in my choice. It's too wide a range, too many things offered, too many opinions and tests...and I'm lost.
That's why, just as I did at the time and your advice was right, I turn to you for guidance based on what I've told you and the following specifications (if possible). The new device must have
1º Heart rate monitor: as accurate as possible, taking into account that it will never be like a band; but I want it to be a model in which this is achieved and not a problem.
2º You must be able to calculate the best possible steps/distance both on the street and on the treadmill
3º The GPS is not essential, but it is welcome.
4º I don't care about the subject of call notifications, messages, whatssapp, etc....that's what the mobile is for and I don't want the device for that...if you have it because you have it well, if I don't mind.
5º It's not excessively important to me either, but if you somehow calculate your BMI or (to put it another way) your real body age or condition, you'll be fine.
6º If it is possible, I would like to find a model that can be synchronized and/or consult the data with the PC. I know that nowadays more and more only to synchronization with mobile devices, but if there is some that reunites the previous thing and in addition it can be consulted through PC...better.
7º It's complicated too, I don't know if any model will fit more or less to all of the above and also it can be detached from the strap. I say this because with the old Vivofit I take off the device and I put it in the shoe or hem of the sports mesh at the height of the ankle and this way I could get it to be more exact in steps.
8º ...and for LAST: my wrist is very small; 13.5cm below the wrist bone and 14cm above.
And taking advantage of all this, I would like you to advise me something also for my husband, but taking into account that the YES wants at all costs that it has a good GPS integrated, that in the street he runs a little but above all he bicycles.... and that he does a lot of elliptical biking and if he follows a specific training for it.
I'm sorry I wrote so much, but I want you to have all the data possible so that you can offer each of us at least 2 or 3 models and then see which one we feel better about.
Thank you very much in advance for everything.
If you want to move on to something else, it is best to go for something like a clock, because the larger it is the better the keystroke recording. For that use the Vivoactive 3 is a very good choice because it is simple but quite capable, perfect for both. You've got it down now.although from Italy you can buy it even cheaperYou can give yourselves a good gift these days.
Thank you very much, Eduardo.
Just that Vivoactive 3 model is the one that (supported also by your comments) I had thought of for my husband......
.......but for me (I've seen it physically, so I know its sphere size) it seems too big. As my hands and wrist are so small and thin.....it almost bulges more than my hand!!! hahahaha: based on the features I've pointed out that I'm looking for, would you please advise me 2 or 3 models (pass me the purchase links so I can support your page, buy the one I buy) more bracelet type? that are reliable brands and fit well to a small wrist.
Thank you once again for everything and your effort for everyone.
I'm sorry again, Eduardo, to tell you that I've read a lot of your analysis and maybe, for what I'm trying to control (although I'm also interested in the subject of sleep because I have trouble sleeping) and what I do, the device for me would go to: Garmin vivosport - Garmin Vivosmart HR+ - Garmin Vivosmart 4 - Fitbit Charge 3 (although the last 2 lack GPS).
I don't know what you think of them based on the characteristics I look for and that I told you in the 1st comment, and what I do...of course it goes without saying that you have always shown to advise based on the real needs of each person, so if for me you see another one of this type (there are so many Samsumg...Polar...), I will trust what you tell me. I have named these 4 because your analyses are very interesting and seem to be within a similar range and reliable brands. THANK YOU
If the Vivoactive 3 still seems big to you then you have no choice but to go to a bracelet. Garmin Vivosmart HR+ discard it because it is already quite an old product, in fact the Vivosport is the bracelet that replaced it.
This last one I liked quite a lot and it's a good option especially because you can always count on the GPS.
The Vivosmart 4 does not have a GPS, although it is a bit narrower, but I'll stick with the Vivosport because its screen is a bit bigger and more practical to use.
Thank you very much Eduardo, really the Vivosport seems the best option....just a couple more doubts:
- Do you think the vivoport will fit a small doll like mine (13cm)?
- In your opinion, and leaving aside a little the issue of GPS: Vivosport or Fitbit Charge 3? ...can be connected to the PC as well?
Thank you once again.
The Vivosport is not a big bracelet, I don't think you'll have any problems. Neither can be connected to the computer, only through the mobile phone.
Since you are already from Garmin, you are used to the platform and it is where all your training is already; the most logical way is to continue on the same platform.
Thank you very much for everything Eduardo, then I will surely go for the Vivosport. I am a little angry about the PC because I come from an old Vivofit already, and there is if you could link to the PC also via Bluetooth ... so I thought that Garmin would continue to give that possibility, but well, that's what there is.
Finally, if you pass me the links of where to buy both the Vivoactive 3 and the vivosport to contribute...great.
(I am answering you from here because in your last reply there was no "Reply" option)
Well, you can actually connect it to the computer with the USB cable (the charging cable). I have never tried to make Bluetooth connections with the computer.
I'll leave you the links:
Vivoactive 3: https://amzn.to/2BsD0m6
THANK YOU for your time and your wonderful attention. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!